Could Germany be at the center of WWIII

[Super Ordinary Guy]

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and China.

I would only make a very small change to this statement....

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and anyone else not radical Islamic.

[The Oracle]

I will agree that Germany has a long way to go to be ranked as a military threat. I will also agree and have taken the position for years that China will be a major factor in any thought of WWIII. Also, we must remember that Germany is very resistant to military conflict. That said Germany sided with China and Russia in voting no on U.N. involvement in Libya.

I think the point of the article is how long will Germany allow themselves to be kicked by other EU nations that are looking this gift horse in the mouth? For that matter how long will the nations of the world sit back and do nothing when the lessons of history have demonstrated that in the last century two world wars began in the in times of political upheaval and resistance to changing political environments and/or severe economic turmoil. Today, we have both happening at the same time. The last 100 years have demonstrated that this is a dangerous combination.

[davidg]

Someone told me a theory that "The Beast" that is slain and comes back to life in Revelations is Germany. Their split is the "Death" of the beast while the unification is The Beast's resurrection/indwelt with Satan. I don't subscribe to this theory but I understand why it has people concerned.

See, I cannot understand how people can be so stupid as that.. then again.. I find the belief in the "literal word of the bible" pretty silly.. putting it mildly.

[davidg]

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and China.

I would only make a very small change to this statement....

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and anyone else not radical Islamic.

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

[n11pilot]

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and China.

I would only make a very small change to this statement....

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and anyone else not radical Islamic.

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

Davidg, I think that there may be quite a few fundamentalist believers of a few faiths who have never raised their hand against their fellow man. Greek Orthodox are considered fundamentalists but to my knowledge have never tried to bring down an airliner with an exploding jockstrap. Hasidic Jews are fundamentalists and are not known in the slightest for beheading reporters. I could go on but you get the idea.

[Hakaider]

I find the belief in the "literal word of the bible" pretty silly.. putting it mildly.

If you don't believe in the "literal word of the Bible", and scoff at it, why are you going around telling people on the message boards that you are a "Christian"?

That would like a car mechanic who says that "I don't believe in what the manual for a car mechanic has to say literally, and I find it quite silly, but I'm still a mechanic".

I would understand, if an atheist said those words, because they really don't believe in the Bible. (At least, an atheist who says that, are being honest about they do or don't believe.)

For someone to say that they are a "Christian", and turn around & says that they don't believe in the Bible, find the Bible as "silly', or even disagree with the very basic concept of Christianity strikes me as very contradictory.

If you don't believe or agree with the teachings of Jesus Christ, then you are not a Christian.

If you believe in the teachings of Buddha, then you are a Buddhist.

If you believe in the teachings of Mohammed, then you are a Muslim.

If you believe that there is no God, and everything that exists, that has existed, or will exist in this world was caused by an sudden "accident", then you are a atheist.


So if you don't believe in the Bible, and scoff at it & call it "silly", stop telling people that you are a "Christian". It would be more prudent & more accurate to call yourself an "Agnostic".

[Blackthorn]

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and China.

I would only make a very small change to this statement....

I see the next major war being fought between radically Islamic nations and anyone else not radical Islamic.

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

I find it interesting that you are always initiating derogatory dialogue against folks like me (a fundamental Christian) but it's never us initiating stuff like that about you (we only reply in defense of your attacks). It's always you firing the first shot, accusing us of being intolerant. Are you supposed to be showing us what tolerance looks like? I'm seeing constant hostility, but no tolerance at all. Why the hypocrisy, David?

[Irish Fist]

Someone told me a theory that "The Beast" that is slain and comes back to life in Revelations is Germany. Their split is the "Death" of the beast while the unification is The Beast's resurrection/indwelt with Satan. I don't subscribe to this theory but I understand why it has people concerned.

See, I cannot understand how people can be so stupid as that.. then again.. I find the belief in the "literal word of the bible" pretty silly.. putting it mildly.

What a flunk prick!

[Super Ordinary Guy]

Someone told me a theory that "The Beast" that is slain and comes back to life in Revelations is Germany. Their split is the "Death" of the beast while the unification is The Beast's resurrection/indwelt with Satan. I don't subscribe to this theory but I understand why it has people concerned.

See, I cannot understand how people can be so stupid as that.. then again.. I find the belief in the "literal word of the bible" pretty silly.. putting it mildly.

What a flunk prick!

Come on Irish, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel !

[The Oracle]

I hope what david is saying is that much of The Bible is parable, meaning that it tells a story but may not be literal. Example, It is said that Jesus fed the 5000 men (not counting women and children) with a five loafs of bread and two fish. Put this into terms that could have been the story, people would have traveled from far away with the provisions they needed. As they traveled they would have been skeptical about sharing because they might not have had enough for themselves and may not have offered it up to feed others that had run short. Perhaps the miracle was that as people arrived they softened their hearts and gave up what they had to aid in adding to the bounty when they saw Jesus offer up what little he and the apostles had. As the baskets were passed people could have added their part, so soon they were always full and everyone got what they needed. It is a miracle just the same and by allowing God into their hearts everyone was fed.

I know that this goes against the grain, but when I read The Holy Bible, I can’t help but wonder how much has been interpreted as literal when it may have been metaphor. Anyhow this is how I took davidg’s comment.

[Eric Renderking Fisk]

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

I find it interesting that you are always initiating derogatory dialogue against folks like me (a fundamental Christian) but it's never us initiating stuff like that about you (we only reply in defense of your attacks). It's always you firing the first shot, accusing us of being intolerant. Are you supposed to be showing us what tolerance looks like? I'm seeing constant hostility, but no tolerance at all. Why the hypocrisy, David?

Blackthorn; As the host of this forum, I've learned to ignore it and I'm ignoring David now... I don't want to do unto others what I did not want them to do to me (censorship). I'm just letting it go.

But as the host, I think posts like David's it's just rude. I would never go to his house or forum and say his beliefs are stupid. Also, what exactly did I say in that post earlier.

[n11pilot]

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

I find it interesting that you are always initiating derogatory dialogue against folks like me (a fundamental Christian) but it's never us initiating stuff like that about you (we only reply in defense of your attacks). It's always you firing the first shot, accusing us of being intolerant. Are you supposed to be showing us what tolerance looks like? I'm seeing constant hostility, but no tolerance at all. Why the hypocrisy, David?

As the host of this forum, I've learned to ignore it. I don't want to do unto others what I did not want them to do to me (censorship).

But as the host, I think it's just rude.

Well, the way I see it DavidG made a comment that may be innocuous in some rarefied circles but is quite insulting to a few of us here and Blackthorn called him on it. In my opinion that is pretty much the end of it.

[Blackthorn]

I would make another change to this... I could easily see another war as being Fundamentalist believers of all/any strip /vs/ The Sane.. if there are any of those left.

I find it interesting that you are always initiating derogatory dialogue against folks like me (a fundamental Christian) but it's never us initiating stuff like that about you (we only reply in defense of your attacks). It's always you firing the first shot, accusing us of being intolerant. Are you supposed to be showing us what tolerance looks like? I'm seeing constant hostility, but no tolerance at all. Why the hypocrisy, David?

As the host of this forum, I've learned to ignore it. I don't want to do unto others what I did not want them to do to me (censorship).

But as the host, I think it's just rude.

Well, the way I see it DavidG made a comment that may be innocuous in some rarefied circles but is quite insulting to a few of us here and Blackthorn called him on it. In my opinion that is pretty much the end of it.

DavidG has simply lost all credibility, sad to say. Hypocrisy will cause that.

[Eric Renderking Fisk]

Blackthorn, someone told me that the way I wrote my post before it looked like I was criticizing you. I wasn't.

[Blackthorn]

Blackthorn, someone told me that the way I wrote my post before it looked like I was criticizing you. I wasn't.

No worries, Eric, I saw that it had been copied oddly, making it look like I wrote what David had written. But since you made me a Mod, I just went in and edited it to be more accurate as to who said what.