Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby Cousi » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:02 am

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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby DLFerguson » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:12 pm

I'd really like to see a series based on Peter David's TREK novels. There have been quite a few original TREK novels I've read that I've wondered why they were never adapted into movies as that would seem to me to be a no-brainer. After all, you've got tons of material that would make for great stories. I've heard from people who have been to conventions where Peter David was asked why his TREK novels aren't being made into movies/TV series and according to them, David claims that Paramount doesn't want to pay him or the other writers more money.

Now that may sound crazy but I believe it. When it comes to Paramount, they've always been cheap when it comes to STAR TREK. No matter how much money the movies would make, they always cut the budget more and more.
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby Eric Renderking Fisk » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:06 am

This isn't the first time I've read those remarks, and Harve isn't the first to say that. Nick Meyer had a lot of harsh criticism for the man as well. The more I think about it, the more I think I've read more people who said that Gene Roddenberry was a bit of a nut and control freak than said that "he was a wonderful, sweet man." There are a lot of people who worked for him who feel they were ripped off and manipulated. Case in point, Harlan Ellison.
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby DLFerguson » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:56 am

Eric Renderking Fisk wrote:This isn't the first time I've read those remarks, and Harve isn't the first to say that. Nick Meyer had a lot of harsh criticism for the man as well. The more I think about it, the more I think I've read more people who said that Gene Roddenberry was a bit of a nut and control freak than said that "he was a wonderful, sweet man." There are a lot of people who worked for him who feel they were ripped off and manipulated. Case in point, Harlan Ellison.


Well, to be fair Harlan Ellison thinks that everybody he's ever met ripped him off and manipulated him :lol:
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby Eric Renderking Fisk » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:14 pm

You have to make a special exception in this case because he was the first to blow the whistle on Roddenberry's skeeviness.
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby DLFerguson » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:03 pm

Eric Renderking Fisk wrote:You have to make a special exception in this case because he was the first to blow the whistle on Roddenberry's skeeviness.


Maybe so. And even though I think Harlan Ellison is a demi-god I think it's unreasonable that the man made a 30 year second career just out of suing Gene Roddenberry and Paramount over the "City At The Edge Of Forever" screenplay. Didn't he even write an entire book about the whole thing?
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby Eric Renderking Fisk » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:17 am

I actually read the book... well... all of it except the different versions of the script. I read his original and that was about it.

Harlan makes a really good case that Roddenberry was a real skunk and took the credit for a show that he abandoned before the beginning of the third season and took credit for aspects of Star Trek that he had nothing to do with. Harlan is a pain in the can and loves to stir the pot as it were that would make some people suspicious, but in my book he's always been the angry voice for fair play.
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Re: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Postby DLFerguson » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:31 am

Eric Renderking Fisk wrote:I actually read the book... well... all of it except the different versions of the script. I read his original and that was about it.

Harlan makes a really good case that Roddenberry was a real skunk and took the credit for a show that he abandoned before the beginning of the third season and took credit for aspects of Star Trek that he had nothing to do with. Harlan is a pain in the can and loves to stir the pot as it were that would make some people suspicious, but in my book he's always been the angry voice for fair play.


Oh, no doubt. Don't get me wrong. I loves me some Harlan Ellison and actually had the pleasure of talking to him twice way back in the 70's. He's probably the first writer in any genre to achieve rock star status.
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