Hereward wrote:People who are educated and in particular know about history do not make good consumers.
The Oracle wrote:I have been reluctant to post on this as I am trying to understand the other side of the debate. However, in my studies on Islam (no I am not a Muslim) I have found several things that disturb me. After the 9/11 attacks I sought to gain an understanding of the Muslim faith and so I have read much of the Koran in the various translations and I have taken courses on Middle Eastern culture and Islam for my history minor in my degree program as well as Intelligence studies that deal with radical Islam and the Middle East.
What I have found demonstrates that both sides of the debate have valid points. As far as Islam is concerned, I have found that there are two teachings that Muslims go by. They can be summed up by the teachings that Muhammad gave while he spent time in Mecca and Medina. While in Mecca the Muslims said to have been persecuted, stoned and killed as they threatened the way of life in the region. As a result the teachings are filled with messages of peace. Still, the Koran has passages that claim that deceit is necessary when faced with overwhelming odds. After the move to Medina the teaching become much more militant and intolerant. Many like the Saudi's teach this more intolerant side of Islam.
If you were to ask a person of Muslim faith about this contrast, they may say that they practice the Meccan teaching, but what about the idea of deceit. How are non-Muslims to take the fact that other the most vocal of all Muslim clerics say that they latter teaching are the correct ones? How can we tolerant of a faith that is so intolerant of what they consider to be non-believers?
As far as the Mosque, I agree that it is not a Mosque. A mosque would not have all of the amenities that this center is alleged to have. I also agree that there are actual mosques in the area already. I also agree with the question of how close is too close? I agree that U.S. policies towards the Middle East have fostered and environment where the spread of hate and radical Islam can foster.
Now my belief is that the intentions of this center can be determined by where the funding for it comes from. If this site is funded by the Saudi's or any other Muslim nation where the Saudi-Wahhabi style of Islam (the one that gave birth to the Taliban and al Qaeda) is the accepted form of Islam, then the goal of this site is to put a thumb in the eye of America. If the funding comes from American donations, I might go along with the idea that the aim is to build a tolerance. Either way I am tired of being told that Judeo-Christian white males must conform to the political correctness and tolerance standards of others. For once I want another group to say, we should be tolerant and think of the ramifications of our actions.
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